Now the whining is spreading over to here. Where’s the Fairness Doctrine when you need it, eh, Rog?
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Don’t leave out William’s sidekick Jeff Prestone. He is “helping” too.

It needs more cowbell. And emoticons.

I ventured over there occasionally, but I got out of the habit of checking in when the only updates were infrequent screeds from a WKRN employee posting as “Nemesis Girl” (Note: this is just my assumption regarding the identity of “NG”)

Now I don’t care to go over there. Even though “William” and I agree on a few basic things it’s sort of like reading a blog run by a left-wing Archie Bunker.

Yeah, that’s a pretty accurate summary. Well, accurate, at any rate. Ain’t nothin’ pretty about it.

What whining is over here, JP?

it’s sort of like reading a blog run by a left-wing Archie Bunker

You mean like “Jesus General”?

What whining is over here, JP?

Roger, #9, etc., whining about the content at NiT, rather than, y’know, actually doing something about it (like asking Christian for a login, which, last I heard, was pretty doggone easy to obtain).
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Hooray for William and his posts - they only reflect what 74% of our country thinks. Don’t you just hate it when the majority exercises its majority-ness?

Call me crazy (shut up, it’s a figure of speech), but, I always thought it was supposed to be a round up of Nashville blogs.

What Busy Mom said.

JP writes over on NiT, “I think William’s created a lot of discussion, though”.

Dude, you are the said “discussion”.

How many times will you write, “GIVE ‘EM HELL, HARRY!”?

What discussion is not your replies are pleas to make it stop. Or make it relevant, or even interesting.

Needs more cowbell, seriously.

Call me crazy (shut up, it’s a figure of speech), but, I always thought it was supposed to be a round up of Nashville blogs.

That’s what it was, but WKRN has been remarkably timid and tardy in explaining what it’s going to be, going forward. It’s really tough to ask unpaid volunteer posters to toe too much of a line, rules-wise.

One thing is certain: NiT will never be exactly what it was before. It may be good, it may be bad, it will be different.
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How many times will you write, “GIVE ‘EM HELL, HARRY!”?

I dunno. Why not post a link with the count you have.
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No, I can pretty much tell you that, if they don’t start paying someone/people and keep running off good guest bloggers (not to toot Newscoma’s horn, but honk honk), it will be bad. This is very much the C-team blogging crew (and that’s being generous).

The fact of the matter is that WKRN is allowing that blog to commit suicide by further alienating the audience it seeks to woo.

So the NiT bloggers flee NiT to start their own blog and then complain about how bad NiT? That’s just bad manners, IMHO. Just sayin’ …

It’s more like the NiT bloggers who spent a lot of their own time trying their best to save it are now depressed that it seems to be on a downward spiral, despite the hundreds of hours invested in keeping it as an asset to the community.

Or, you know, whatever. Your way is good, too.

The fact of the matter is that WKRN is allowing that blog to commit suicide by further alienating the audience it seeks to woo.

What audience is that, kat?
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“further alienating the audience it seeks to woo”

Who that call my name?

Too busy right now to blog and volunteer… reviewing gadgets and paying the mortgage, food and weddings.

Roger, I’d say you were the ideal person to start posting and linking over there to provide some balance. Are you gonna do that for no money? Because if not, maybe your complaints ought to be directed at the folks in charge of NiT rather than the volunteers trying to keep the thing going.

This isn’t as much a ‘political’ issue as it is a ‘crappy blogger’ issue. Just because who I assume is a conservative pointed it out doesn’t mean it’s a partisan concern. I don’t always agree with the previous boss of NIT, but these new kids flat-out suck compared to Brit, Kat, Ivy, Coma, and pretty much the rest of the MCB posters.

Fair points both to nm and Roger.

nm has a point about taking up the cross at NiT. Although I’m not roger I bet I can answer for him. He can post once every now and again, but doesn’t have the time available for the all-day time sucker that is NiT guest-blogging.

And Roger has a point that it seems kind of off that the right-wing employee of the station is reined in while the apparently left-wing volunteer is allowed to run riot unchecked in what is quickly becoming an echo chamber for JP.

what is quickly becoming an echo chamber for JP.

Heh — well, that’s obviously got more than a couple of pairs of panties knotted, that much is readily apparent.
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I say kill it already, but then nobody asked me.

I say kill it already, but then nobody asked me.

I won’t miss it (and I really won’t miss people whining about what it ought to be, in the meantime). What I used to get from NiT, I now get here.
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This post just kinda made me feel icky. Seems like a low road was taken… (I’m a bit of an authority on low-road-taking. Do I have to remind everyone that I once left a boyfriend naked and passed out in his backyard? Yes, low road.)

Brittney, what do you think they should do?

There, now someone has asked.

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I hear there’s a big change coming at NiT and for now, they’re treading water. Personally, I love the new poster, like Kevin said, he speaks for most of us. The discussions in comments are great.

If you really want to get bored, got to Kat’s blog or some of these other ‘mommy bloggers’ and read one inane banal post after another.

This isn’t as much a ‘political’ issue as it is a ‘crappy blogger’ issue.

That is the issue. And JP compounds it. I can think of very few people that used to read NiT that like the “Jesus General” blog.

The banter between William and JP is like Jesus General and democommie. In other words crap.

Echo chambers not only accomplish nothing they are very boring.

Hmmm. I hate Bush. I love Kat’s blog. I think NiT was livelier and the discussions had more traction when Brittney was running it than they do now. I think that some of the reason for the change is that a bunch of the people who were more active there are now more active here and there are just so many hours in a day. I disagree with Roger Abramson on just about everything, but I’d rather have him moderating a discussion than most people who agree with me, because he understands how to make it work. I want NiT to survive and I’m worried that if TPTB don’t define what they’re doing pretty soon, and make their plans public and their blogger(s) authoritative, it will die before they can do it. Because I tend to agree with William when he makes political links, but I don’t think he’s got the knack of nurturing conversation.

Wtf is up with you folks who call everything that’s not political, or, “issue” oriented a “mommy blog”?

Time for a new insult.

Really. I don’t think of KatCo’s blog as a “mommy blog” at all.
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Exactly what I’ve noticed to, nm.

Wtf is up with you folks who call everything that’s not political, or, “issue” oriented a “mommy blog”?

What is more stereotypically female than being a mother? And how better to dismiss anything one doesn’t like than to label it female? Because female = trivial, you know.

Given the fact that my “banal” blog–which discusses diverse topics of religious thought, libertarian politics, Harry Potter, general literature, linguistics, popular culture, knitting and evil clowns–is written by me, a childless woman I think it’s hard to label it a “mommy blog”.

Although I think nm has pretty much summed up that dismissal nicely.

Sour Grapes -
After Brittney left, the NiT traffic rate stayed about the same, and actually improved a little. It has only been since the advent of MCB that NiT hits counts have dropped.

The people who are blogging here now, where the ones responsible for the majority of hits at NiT. The clique moved from one blog to another. Now, with all you “mommy bloggers” over here, we see how much real reach NiT has, and always had.

Brittney blogs whatever she wanted to, while at the same time allowing most people to at least occasionally being heard. Now it seems people are worried that their particular ideologies won’t get a proper hearing, and are bitching about it.

Just participate or make your own community blog.

OK, glad we got that cleared up. Color me enlightened.

Sorry, gotta run. I think one of my kids just pooped. I’ll write about it later.

Oh, the color of poop!

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“Just participate or make your own community blog.”

This might possibly be the funniest thing (in context) I have ever read.

Oh, and Kevin? Solely political blogs are extremely boring, surpassed only by solely political people.

As I peruse various “columnists” in Nashville, both online and print, the two best pure writers I see are Lindsay Ferrier and Busy Mom.

You heard that right.

To understand the depth of B-Mo’s talent, you have to read all of her blogs.

I dare you to find ANY two local writers who are more eloquent about the stuff of life than those two.

Not to disparage any other bloggers in this particular “clique”; 80% of them are as good or better than the writers in the Tennessean and Scene.

Your mileage may vary, but I know good writing when I see it.

But implying that “serious” writing only concerns itself with politics and world affairs implies a gross ignorance of perspective, about writing, and life itself.

There is no fucking clique. Excuse me while I go cry for the next 3 hours, it’s been a rough day.

/slow claps for Slarti

Kevin,

Your dismissal of all the rest of society as a “clique” is getting tiresome.

Welcome to what was my hell!

Hey Kevin, go get a job and stop worrying about mommy bloggers. They have an excuse for not working.

Solely political blogs are extremely boring, surpassed only by solely political people.

Say it again.

Bigfoot bloggers???
Anyone, Anyone…
Bueller, Bueller.
Man, I’m hearing crickets. With Ivy, been a helluva day.

‘Coma–
sending you good thoughts and prayers.

Signed,
Banal Blogger

i think we have a new high for comments on MCB.

Yeah, between MCB, NiT, TN Blog Watch, and my own feed reader, i keep seeing the same posts over and over again.

I’m gonna nuke NiT for now. I really dig (no pun intended) TN Blog Watch. Just added vote buttons to my posts.

That guy has gone so batshit crazy, I spend half my days trying to find fluff to post to keep things light and topical. It’s getting harder and harder to want to “help” when that stuff is going on.

[insert reference to Elvis Costello here]

It’s getting harder and harder to want to “help” when that stuff is going on.

Understand where you’re coming from on this one.

Ok, everyone stand in a circle. Now turn to your right. Now, give the person in front of you a pat on the back.

One point I’d like to make: I don’t understand why people assume the high school definition of “clique” - as if it’s meant to be taken as an insult - unless that happens to be where you are emotionally and intellectually. I’m just saying that this group of bloggers is a rather finite set, and thus has a limited reach and appeal.

It’s the same as with all the worry about being labeled a “mommy blog.” Like right wingers and left wingers and all the green people, mommy blogs do have a distinct political agenda and can be as boring as any other labeled “political” blog.

It’s like listening to a preacher talking about how his church is the better church because they don’t do what other church’s do. That’s ridiculous.

One last point: just because a person picks just one subject to write about on his blog doesn’t mean that he can’t or won’t write about other subject matter. There are many bloggers who keep many different blogs as a way of organizing their work by subject.

I was a Mr. Mom when I was married, and changed diapers for about 6 years. I’m just not interested in writing about it. I never said that mommy blogs are badly writen or irrelevant.

So, why do you blog? I think I do because: 1) I want to share, either because something is so cool or really pisses me off, and/ or 2) I want to hear what others think about something and want to chat about it.

So, yea, I just offered to help out at NiT ’cause I have time.

Do you often blog about things you know nothing about? Of course not. I probably would if I were being paid for it, but JTG is right, NiT is treading water til the new ‘unveiling’ - whatever and whenever that may be. So don’t expect me to do what Brittney did. (Miss you, Brit!) I have a life outside of the blogs as does Alison, and others who are helping out in this interim.

Like you, I just blog what I am passionate about, and of those things, the one thing that I think affects us all is US/World politics and our government. Photos, science, art, weather, food and religion are also faves. Obviously, if you look at my blog, you’ll know that I am interested in other stuff outside of politics, but I don’t expect readers to be interested in the latest Renaissance Lute Fantasia that I happen to be learning, or my boating/cycling/hiking adventures. But whoa… politics sure seems to strike a nerve with people and provoke opinions and discussion (unlike my sole post on hiking). Seems like most people have an opinion, that we have in common.

So, if I pissed anyone off, good. There’s a lot of shit going down in our government that people ought to know about. Write in to NiT, tell me what you really think, I’ll be happy to hear your take on things. Send me an email if there’s something too cool to be missed and I’ll put it up.

Party on, it’s summer!
concertguitar@comcast.net

*I’m just saying that this group of bloggers is a rather finite set, and thus has a limited reach and appeal.*

New ones enter the group all the time. It is not finite any way you parse it.

Oh please.

You’ve USED the term “clique” disparagingly both here and at NiT, repeatedly.

You’ve used it to dismiss others, to point out your hurt feelings and to emotionally blackmail Brittney into giving you a weekend blogging gig.

Now you come around with this whole I’m-just-being-a-student-of-human-behaviour BS and act like we’re all jerks for not realising that when you call us names you don’t mean it in a bad way.

Cliques are EXCLUSIVE groups, and that is our (mine & Ivy’s) objection to the term. Our aim here, although we are small, is to be INCLUSIVE. When you call this blog and its participants a “clique”, you imply that we do not wish to include others.

Therein lies the offense.

ed note: this was in response to Kevin.

William,

Just know that as you (mis)use NiT for your bully-pulpit that you are killing it.

I’m just saying that this group of bloggers is a rather finite set, and thus has a limited reach and appeal.

And this is why NiT has totally crapped the bed since Britt et al have left, while MCB has started surpassing it in hits, right?

I thought this blog was not going to attack other bloggers. If you had argued the talking points and issues I would have understood. But this was just a swipe against NIT. (Not a fan of theirs–talking about how I understood MCB to behave, which shouldn’t be influenced by NIT actions or anyone elses)
Two weeks. Wow…well, you made it 14 days without someone taking a shot at another blogger(s).
I check this blog first thing and was really disappointed and saddened to see an attack post.
If it’s not business as usual for Middle Tennessee bloggers, your actions and words need to reflect that.

Just know that as you (mis)use NiT for your bully-pulpit that you are killing it.

Or not. Or maybe it’s already dead, and doesn’t know it.

Btw, Kat — you mentioned an audience WKRN was trying to woo. Can you shed more light on your insight on this?
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Sorry Katherine, maybe you can “save Nit” …you wanna do it? Maybe you’re right, perhaps Nashville would rather talk about Harry Potter or what was said at your parents house than presidential abuse of power, the war, government oversight, al Qaeda or other unconsequential topics like that.

Kevin –

I have never heard nor read the word “clique” where it wasn’t meant derisively. Neither, I would wager, has anyone else on this board. That is a very specific word employed for a very specific purpose. Now, if you want to say you misspoke, that’s fine. If, on the other hand, you want to own it, that’s fine, too. But don’t insult everyone’s intelligence by claiming you didn’t mean exactly what you wrote.

William –

There is a difference between peppering NiT with your own opinions from time to time and simply (ab)using the forum as your own personal soapbox. That’s what the problem is. It’s “Nashville is Talking,” not “William is Talking.”

William: She had the job before you, and under her stewardship things went well. Obviously she’s better-able to balance the serious with the fun.

William –

The problem is not that you post about those topics. The problem is that you think you have anything profound to say about them.

Sorry Katherine, maybe you can “save Nit” …you wanna do it?

That’s funny, when you think about it.

Maybe you’re right, perhaps Nashville would rather talk about Harry Potter or what was said at your parents house than presidential abuse of power,

That’s also funny. I take it today was like the first time you went to my personal blog, huh?

Cause we never talk about those other things at my blog.

Never

I thought this blog was not going to attack other bloggers.

Point taken. Perhaps I should have not let Roger’s post fly. I thought he had a few good points though (see his updates).

I suppose it is NOT a good idea for us to disparage NiT. I think that in our confusion about what NiT was, is and is to come most of us don’t know exactly how to express what we’re thinking.

I thought that in light of that confusion Roger had some valid points.

Though I do realise that William is a volunteer.

Sharon –

I guess I didn’t get that memo. Anyway, I think you;re difining the word “attack” downward here. The state of NiT, I think, is a perfectly legitimate topic.

If only 4-5 (out of the surely millions, who make up most of the NiT audience, right?) of the aggrieved wingers would ask Christian for a login, I’m sure between those few, they could more than match William, and mold NiT into whatever blog Nirvana they so desire.

Nah — they’d rather whine across the local blogosphere. How many more blogs will be infected with the whining, tonight? Two? Seven?

[rolls eyes, :lol:]
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Inasmuch as my post could be taken as a violation of the spirit of this site, I’ll apologize for posting it here. I’ll stand by the sentiments expressed though

William, it was the way you did it, the frequency, the single mindedness, and JP as sidekick. The post I commented at NiT on was a non-sequitur.

You did Jesus General and it was in poor taste. Had you done Randy Neal it would not have been a problem. Nothing wrong with passion., but you have to be able to understand the audience. You didn’t. We could hear the clunk sound in Knoxville.

“I’m sure between those few, they could more than match William.”

Please. My five year old could “more than match William.” You’re not setting a very high standard there. heck, one fo your cats could do as well.

And, yes, I understand that he is a volunteer. But the point is that he’s abusing that position.

Roger, don’t apologize for someone else’s shitty blogging. NiT is a completely fair topic of discussion, IMHO.

JP–

The audience NiT is trying to woo used to be all of Nashville. Not some Atriot sectarians. I mean, sure, Atriots were welcomed. But NiT used to also be for movie geeks, poets, preachers and mommies.

As far as “wingers asking for a login” it sounds like you are continuing to miss the point.

The point isn’t that NiT should have 50 biased people posting their biases. The point is that as a gathering point for community NiT should be more accessible.

FTR: I don’t think Roger’s post “violated the spirit of the site”.

As far as “wingers asking for a login” it sounds like you are continuing to miss the point.

The point isn’t that NiT should have 50 biased people posting their biases. The point is that as a gathering point for community NiT should be more accessible.

Well, the point as I see it is that the more folx who would step up and volunteer, the less whining and complaining about how “unrepresentative” one particular blogger’s POV there would be. Make sense?
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I think this is a serious topic and needed to be discussed. It was about hijacking a community forum.

I also don’t see how the idea of one or more “wingers” doing what William did is a counter point. The issue is he crossed a very clear line. Clear to everyone but William and JP.

Well, that’s good to know. I’m not very good at following rules sometimes.

Anyway, look, for all I know William’s a perfectly swell guy in person, so, in that respect, it’s not personal. And I’m certainly not expecting perfection at NiT. Far from it.

But I would like the folks over there to at least give it the old college try. I think it would be great if it lives on in some form. Now, I don’t know what form that would be. But I’d venture to say that political masturbation ain’t it.

It was about hijacking a community forum.

Alison knows that Nashville is not always Talking about politics.

Alison knows that Nashville is not always Talking about politics.

If ONLY a few more Alisons could be found to donate precious moments of their time, every day… if ONLY it were possible (and of ONLY the Moonbat Cabal at WKRN would allow it!).
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JP –

Oy. I know that this may be hard for you to believe, but this really isn’t political. It has nothing to do with how “representative” his views are. It’s the fact that those views are pretty much all he talks about on a site that is not designed for that. Shoickingly, and I say this as a political nerd, there are many other interesting things going on in the world than politics.

And the fact that he thinks posting about these topics is somehow going to mean a lick in the grand scheme of things is laughable.

Wasn’t NIT supposed to highlight what local bloggers were blogging about? Did that change sometime in the past month?

JP–

Why do you think this blog here even exists? Precisely for that reason. To give people from all areas and walks of life a broader platform. To be what you suggest NiT should be.

Brought up by Roger but haven’t seen commented on in this thread - I can hardly bear to read Volunteer Voters lately. And why I should care since I am the least political blogger in the state pretty much, I don’t know, but it’s sad to me what has obviously happened there. Politics never interested me that much in the first place but at least Carter often made it more interesting. Since all this “new” I’m finding it about as interesting as the Wall Street Journal is to me (i.e., none) and I can’t read it. And I could be wrong but like most, I don’t think Carter just “changed his writing style” overnight.

And William, if I want to read about national news or much of anything else that has little or nothing to do with Nashville and Nashville blog discussion, I have a million online media outlets and news outlets for that on the Internet. If I go to Nashville is Talking, I go to see what Nashville blogs are talking about and a little bit of Nashville-ish news.

Went there today. Saw none. Left in less than 30 seconds.

The point is to review what Nashville and area blogs are talking about and post what you find interesting or funny or worthy of discussion among the Nashville and area blogs on the NIT blogroll. Or did they just hand you the keys and say here, make NIT another own of your own personal blogs and don’t read and report on any blogs on the NIT blogroll? ‘Cause that’s pretty much what it looks like to me and much like what’s happened to VV, I find that sad right now too.

And the fact that he thinks posting about these topics is somehow going to mean a lick in the grand scheme of things is laughable.

And yet half the town is spanning two blogs with non-stop discussion about William’s “misdeeds.”
Look, neither you nor I have the keys — WKRN does, and they gave William a set. They’d likely give anyone who asked a set, if they’d let a dirty freakin’ hippie like William have the helm, right?
Anyone got a fainting couch I can rent?
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Wasn’t NIT supposed to highlight what local bloggers were blogging about?

That was my understanding…
Did that change sometime in the past month?

On or about July 5th.

And yet half the town is spanning two blogs with non-stop discussion about William’s “misdeeds.”

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What’s the other blog?

JP is right about one thing, someone does need to volunteer at NiT to right the ship. To even the keel. As I wrote a few weeks ago, it needs more than one volunteer at a time. Alison tried to level it out but was not able.

What’s the other blog?

This is one; NiT (various threads, almost all by William) is the other.
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Hmm, a few minutes ago only 4-5 people cared. Now it’s “half the town.” Pretty small town. No wonder we can’t keep an NHL team here.

Anyway, I guess what you’re trying to say is that William has fulfilled his apparent purpose of getting people “energized” about these Big Issues that have got him all worked up. Wellm, that’s doubtful. Look around: no one’s talking about that stuff–they’re talking about him. Big difference.

I’m personally done volunteering for Christian Grantham.

Why do you think this blog here even exists? Precisely for that reason. To give people from all areas and walks of life a broader platform. To be what you suggest NiT should be.

And I think it’s working out very well! I thought I clarified my thoughts on that around 10:30 a.m. in this thread.
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9 –

True enough. But I’d say that fact that they;ve let William spout on on this way for this long indicates no supervision by the station, which means you’d have to have the energy both 1) to post and 2) to keep William from flooding the zone.

Look around: no one’s talking about that stuff–they’re talking about him. Big difference.

Yeah, I think William’s evil mind control is slowly weakening, but I can see why there’s so much concern (and so little actual action on the part of the complainers).
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Honestly, I had no idea this post would have this reaction. Interesting. I’ve also never had anyone tell them something I wrote made them feel “icky” before. Also interesting.

Well, to hell with it. Everyone go to their respective blogs. Pull the plug on NiT, I say.

JP, maybe you and William should take the rest of the day off. Your pissing contest is doing as much damage as Jesus General did.

::weeps, feels icky::

It’s “Nashville is Talking,” not “William is Talking.”

Exactly.

The state of NiT, I think, is a perfectly legitimate topic.

ABSOLUTELY.

The above was in response to one of Sharon’s comments. Sharon, with all due respect - I can’t see how you can possibly think this discussion is not perfectly valid and legitimate. This isn’t trash talking another blog/blogging group. NIT has changed, obviously, in the EXTREME, a 500% change. Many of us think it’s drawing its last breath. If it’s not a valid and legitimate discussion among Nashville and area bloggers, I don’t know what is - in fact, it kinda almost is the most legitimate Nashvile blogging discussion ever by nature of its very topic.

Again with all due respect, I know you are too bright and have too much professional journalistic experience to let personal feelings about other bloggers color your perspective. I will stand by what I said, I don’t feel this is trash-talking NIT at *all* - the topic is maybe the most legitimate Nashville and area blogging discussion ever in the past two years, given the topic and given the circumstances.

Wasn’t NIT supposed to highlight what local bloggers were blogging about?

Yep.

Did that change sometime in the past month?

It’s pretty much looking that way.

Your pissing contest is doing as much damage as Jesus General did.

And you’re making Baby Jesus cry! Get ‘hold of yourself, man. Blogs ain’t life-n-death, and there’s no one left to lose a job @ NiT. So, keep on keepin’ on.
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(Cripes, what is the deal with the comment box formatting on this template? Sorry my comments are such a mess in here - even when I put a line between paragraphs it’s not showing… and if I tab to submit I lose the comment altogether and have to start over. Not complaining, just apologizing for the mess my comments are - sorry gang)

Roger, don’t apologize for anything you’ve said here today. Everything you’ve posted today is perfectly valid and, as usual, pretty much right on the mark.

Blogs ain’t life-n-death, and there’s no one left to lose a job @ NiT. So, keep on keepin’ on.

That is no reason to commit vandalism on NiT. People have tried to express they don’t care for a LGF or Jesus General type blog. You two seem happy to accelerate the demise of NiT. As for anyone volunteering I think you have discouraged that. Were there just too many moderate people at NiT for your liking?

Even S-Town Mike, a hyperlocal blogger if there ever was one, agrees that NiT is dead: http://enclave-nashville.blogspot.com/2007/07/farewell-and-adieu-ye-ladies-of-spain.html

Alright everyone, time to go outside for a walk or something….

Or maybe a cup of tea.

You two seem happy to accelerate the demise of NiT.

For me, it’s just entertainment… but anything that causes WKRN to transition it from limbo into [whatever] is probably a Good Thang, IMO.
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So is anyone else wondering why Jeff doesn’t have a login at NiT? After all that sellin’ JP, why ain’t ya buying?

Well, I don’t think William has crossed any line. I just don’t think that he’s figured out the trick of getting people to respond to his posts. Otherwise this argument would be going on over at NiT instead of here.

So is anyone else wondering why Jeff doesn’t have a login at NiT? After all that sellin’ JP, why ain’t ya buying?

I had one, before they switched platforms. I don’t ask for one now because whatever NiT is right now, it isn’t really relevant in any sense (MCB is the new NiT, for all intensive porpoises ). That’s why it’s so funny to see all this energy expended across two blogs, complaining about the content, when NiT logins appear to be anyone’s for the asking.
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Lynnster–
NIT is a legit topic. I didn’t say it wasn’t. And some of the discussion in the comments have been fine. I objected to the personal attacks on William. I don’t know William. It’s not about him.
I was told there would be no personal attacks on bloggers and that is exactly what has happened.
So I stated my surprise and disappointment about personal attacks on another blogger.
I not only went by what I was told, but talked about 1/2 dozen other bloggers into supporting this site based on my word that this site wouldn’t be a site for personal attacks.
That’s what I was told 4 different times.

Look folks, this site has the potential to be a big, positive site. I’ve never understood what some of you get out of attacking an individual blogger…but I’ve been on the being attacked side on more than one occasion, and it’s extraordinarily painful. I just don’t get it. It’s one thing to go after public figures, but it’s an entirely different thing to belittle people who are writing what they believe.

This blog, like life, comes down to if you want to be a positive or a negative conduit in life. We certainly have free choice, and that’s a choice each one of us gets to decide every day we wake up.

There is so much talent in the TN blogosphere, so much talent already writing over here, no one has to stoop to the level that a couple of people have stooped to in the past.

Better to leave the past in the past and get on with a brighter and positive future.

My point is there is just no way to discuss the current state of NIT without discussing the blogger at hand, Sharon - i.e., William, today anyway.

I don’t see it as an “attack”, I see it as a discussion of the pros and cons and positives and negatives of the situation over at NIT right now, the only problem is there don’t seem to be too many positives nor pros right now.

When was the last time NiT got this many comments?

NiT is dead and ACK is acting like Beecher after his first week in Oz.

Man, I leave for a few hours and everyone just hangs out without me.

Going to have a dang beer

I thought I put the blog on pause, before I left work!
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ACK is acting like Beecher after his first week in Oz.

Interesting take. However, I must note, you don’t see Tobias Beecher on this list now do you?

[…] Yesterday we had a pretty long and drawn out conversation about NiT. I think it’s a valid conversation to have, although some people were not happy with the post itself. That’s fine. I didn’t view it as a personal attack against William, I looked at it more of a criticism of the blogging at NiT. […]