“Our?”

This must be an instance of the “royal we” in action…

[…] Katherine Coble on Ron Paul’s campaign:  I would simply say that it was the growing respect for limited government in advance of Dr. Paul’s candidacy which has bouyed him so long. In short, he’s not the father of the movement. Our movement is the father of his candidacy. […]

Yeah, but Kat, I’m not sure it’s “growing” . . . it is basically all the Libertarians who have followed him to the GOP primary, don’t you think? The nagging concern of many Republicans is that he and they will take their piece of the pie and feed it to the dogs as soon as the smack down from GOP primary voters becomes more than just an easily-dismissed poll result.

I know I feel a movement coming on.

Not just Libertarians Ned, but clueless leftists who have no idea what he stands for except that he opposes the war.

Not all “clueless leftists”, Glen.

No Newscoma, not all leftists, just the clueless ones. The smart and principled ones support Kucinich.

[…] Katherine Coble adds an addendum to Bob Krumm’s posting on the candidacy of Ron Paul: I would simply say that it was the growing respect for limited government in advance of Dr. Paul’s candidacy which has bouyed him so long. In short, he’s not the father of the movement. Our movement is the father of his candidacy. Share and Enjoy: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. […]

Hey Glen: Who are the smart and principled rightists supporting (or should I just tell you, as you’re so fond of doing for “leftists”)?
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Not just Libertarians Ned, but clueless leftists who have no idea what he stands for except that he opposes the war.

OMG I agree with Glen Dean. Someone check the temperature in Hades, will you?

King of Artbellistan

That is funny.

Who are the smart and principled rightists supporting?

This one is leaning toward Huckabee, but I haven’t been paying enough attention to lock down support for anyone.

KC, I thought that I had already commented here, but apparently it didn’t take. What I was going to add is that you’re basically saying the same thing that Glenn Reynolds did:

“It’s abundantly clear that he’s not doing it on charisma and rhetorical skill. Which means that libertarian ideas are actually appealing, since Ron Paul isn’t. Paul’s flaws as a vessel for those ideas prove the ideas’ appeal. If they sell with him as the pitchman, they must be really resonating.”

I hope that you’re both right. However, I think his movement is coming instead from disaffected voters who don’t vote Republican anyway, “clueless leftists” as Glen noted, and black helicopter nuts. I think that his “baggage” is dissuading more real voters from jumping on the libertarian train that they might otherwise find very appealing.

If the “leave us the hell alone” attitude is really gaining acceptance you’ll see it in Fred’s numbers. Unfortunately, I’m not seeing enough there to say that there’s a there there.

If the “leave us the hell alone” attitude is really gaining acceptance you’ll see it in Fred’s numbers. Unfortunately, I’m not seeing enough there to say that there’s a there there.

Sorry, but it’s hard to see many in the “leave us the hell alone” camp supporting someone (Thompson) who supported and supports the war in Iraq. Maybe the “leave us the hell alone while we free the hell out of you” camp.

True liberals would also be in favor of most libertarian principles. And so should most conservatives. The problem with the campaigns today is that they pander to the hot-button topics and end up turning the definition of classical liberalism and true conservatism on its head.

Fred has a flat tax idea modeled much like the ones that are currently working successfully in various countries around the world. It wasn’t discussed at all at the last debates.

This current campaign has been one of the more depressing ones in recent memory. It’s like they hired People Magazine to design it. I’ve heard more people talk about what a bitch Hillary can be or how bad Thompson looks physically than anything else of substance.

When the best Libertarians have to look up to is a Ron Paul I need say no more.

Not just Libertarians Ned, but clueless leftists who have no idea what he stands for except that he opposes the war.

Yes, like McCain in 2000, cheering Paul on is a cost-effective way of egging the GOP’s house.